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Brendan Yates Comments On Turnstile Being ‘Soft’ In The Hardcore Scene


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The breakout success that melodic hardcore outfit Turnstile have experienced on the back of their standout 2021 album “Glow On” hasn’t sat well with some. Hardcore, like just about every other heavy genre, has no shortage of gatekeepers, and Turnstile have been the target of much ire amid their rapid ascent.

Recently the term ‘Taco Bell core’ has been levied against bands such as Turnstile, Scowl and Militarie Gun—all of whom have appeared or taken part in Taco Bell-backed promotional campaigns.

The growing popularity and influx of more melodic bands emerging in the hardcore & punk scene as of late hasn’t sat well with select circles in the scene. Scowl themselves vented on the matter last August after growing tired of being accused of ‘being an ‘industry plant.’

Turnstile vocalist Brendan Yates (who has also sat behind the drumkit for Trapped Under Ice) appeared as the guest on a newly-published interview from Norman Brannon‘s (Texas Is The Reason) Anti-Matter. During that discussion, the topic of if he felt that Turnstile are too ‘soft’ for the hardcore scene came up. Here’s how he responded:

“I think, fortunately for me, after a few years of getting into hardcore, I realized it’s cool to be yourself and you don’t necessarily have to be hard. Because I think, going in at first, the initial black-and-white perception is that this is not a place for you to be vulnerable.

Even just growing up, before I started going to shows, with skating, there were always friends who would call you a ‘sissy’ as soon as you started talking about your feelings or something. But once I was traveling more, and having groups of friends around me where I realized I didn’t necessarily need to have my guard up, you could be more comfortable. Like, who are you trying to present tough for?

Even when Turnstile formed, I always felt a sense of younger and older generations being like, ‘That’s not a hardcore band. They’re singing like this, or they’re, like, wearing colors’ [laughs]. But I think the comfort you get is when you realize that you can define the world around you how you want to define it, and you don’t have to necessarily shape your world to anyone else’s definition.

Like, when we were talking about the growth of Turnstile. Every album is a learning experience and such a step towards becoming more comfortable in your own skin. It’s constantly an effort to tap into the truest version of yourself.”

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