Avenged Sevenfold – Nightmare
Warner Bros. 2010
Over the course of the last decade Avenged Sevenfold transformed themselves from antagonistic metalcore stalwarts to a larger than life image driven sleazy rock n’ roll outfit. Much like Eighteen Visions before them, such a bold transition has come with a high price.
A noticeable division between the bands fan base was quickly forged once the change was made and they have been dogged by criticism as a result ever since. That said, while the group certainly took a lot of admirable risks and made some distinctly uncommercial gestures on their near-schizophrenic 2007 self-titled outing; “Nightmare” largely finds them once again returning to the “City Of Evil” sound that previously brought them so much success.
Understandably a more solemn effort, the impact and absence of band drummer James “The Rev” Sullivan, who died of an accidental overdose late last year, serves as a dark undercurrent throughout the course of the record. In his place is Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater fame, one of Sullivan‘s drumming heroes and a man who is more than capable of faithfully recreating the parts Sullivan wrote for the album.
To keep pace with a drummer the caliber of Portnoy isn’t a stretch for the bulk of Avenged Sevenfold. Their instrumental abilities have never been in question, especially the tight bond between guitarists Synyster Gates and Zacky Vengeance and their well known penchant for blistering fretboard wizardry.
However, much like past efforts from the group the songwriting rarely matches the musical talent involved. While often dramatic and buoyed by harmonic leads, breezy hair metal grit and a touch of diluted thrash; Avenged Sevenfold‘s sound continues to tread a distinctly bloated course.
Whether it be their drawn out attempts at soulful balladry or their thrashy leads that sound more “Load” than “Ride The Lightning“, there’s a lot slack on this album that continually holds it back. Sure there are also some subtle nods to classic rock groups like Queen and they even try their hand at some overtly cheesy Alice Cooper-styled theatrics.
But if anything Avenged Sevenfold are often left trying to package themselves as the modern day equivalent of the Sunset Strip’s finest outfit. To put it bluntly, not since “Chinese Democracy” has a band ever wanted to sound more like Guns N’ Roses. To their credit Avenged Sevenfold don’t focus solely on identity theft as there is an abundance of contemporary metal at play.
But it’s hard not to think they may have listened to “November Rain” a few too many times while writing tracks like “So Far Away” or “Victim“, not to mention the “Patience” reminiscent whistling that closes out “Danger Line“.
Such has been the case throughout their career, the songwriting has always been a bit too heavy handed and blatant to stack up with their technical abilities. True there are some catchy riffs and clever parts, but the excessive usage of piano and limited range and coarse wails of band frontman M. Shadows can rarely match them.
In the end, while a much leaner approach than their last outing “Nightmare” still suffers from the same pomp and pretentiousness that has repeatedly derailed the group in the past.
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COMMENTS
korn III > nightmare
stool sample > Nightmare
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Wow, horrible review of a fantastic album. Whoever reviewed this has a terrible taste in music and cannot fully appreciate the musical genius of A7X. Just look at the User Review, a 3.5 out of 5 while you people gave it a 2.5 out of 5. And how could you say that this album is trying to sound like Guns N Roses? I can hear Guns N Roses influences, but also Pantera and other bands. All in all, Bad review, killer and possibly an industry changing album. PS stool sample>KoRn III > Nightmare foREVer !
If you do a review of all the Any hard rock artist, has to be first of all the “respect” for the band, you CAN NOT Have the freedom to Say That They Are driven sleazy. You can do it But critical foundations. I Do Not Know What you mean by poor quality Rock’n Roll, But instrumentally the band is amazing, you have an Originality That not no other band has.
YA ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT THE SAME A7X 10 years ago, I got tired of repeating That HAD Their stage of Metalcore, Where if you Threw them to fame, But They Do not have to detract from Their album City of Evil, made them more “FAMOUS FOR HIS NEW STYLE
Sound more like a Gun’s roses?, Yes Influences, But ALL HAVE INFLUENCE IN THIS WORLD BAND.
I Believe That if a closed mind is, Unfortunately CAN NOT enjoy the good Things That Brings the album, But if someone open-minded, willing to listen to new Proposals for the Rock, you’re going to like the new A7X album.
For all closed-minded people Rocker: The Rock Will Always Be Changing, CAN NOT expect everything to be the same and Monotonous. One CAN NOT compare the Hard Rock 80′s with now. You CAN NOT compare the Metal 80′s with now. That’s the beauty of the Rock May be Changing the style of the guitars, etc. .. Still Continues But with the very essence
A7X album rating: 9 / 10
Wookubus is the same person who gave City of Evil a 1.5/5. So yeah, don’t expect much from him.
Fucking lame. Five songs are ballads. There are three good songs on this album, so when only 27.3% of the album is enjoyable, that gets two stars from me. I don’t necessarily agree with the GNR comparisons either. It’s too bad that these guys can actually play their instruments but can’t write a song that can kick your ass anymore.
DeathBat, you just stated that stool sample > Korn III > Nightmare. That neat looking icon in between the words means “greater than”. So you therefore have stated that a stool sample AND the new Korn album are both better than the new Avenged album…
Well put…very well put.
People still listen to this band?
@ SteveTango. thanks for pointing that out. i was gonna but you saved me the trouble. retards are indeed taking over this world.
“god save us” is, by far, the best song on this album. but yeah, it sucks. 2/5 sounds right to me.
teehee…”god hates us.” i’m such a silly billy.
I think the album is pretty good. Theres some screaming and breakdowns again which is kind of cool. Theres some cool guitar stuff on there too.
I wouldn’t say it was a bad review , wookubus has done a great review. I just disagree with him…completely. Nightmare is a fkn great album! I’m enjoying it… big fan of a7x. A perfect tribute to ‘the rev’ and thats why there are the ballads.
Just another shitty album from an equally shitty band. Wook is spot on with this review.
I swear to god I dropped 20 IQ points reading your post _Chele_. With the awful grammar, nonsensical sentence structures, and random capitalization choices, you really do represent this bands fanbase perfectly.
@ HonoluluBlueBalls: Top notch my friend, I thought I was going dyslexic when I tried to read that shit……..
I really wish people like _Chele_ wouldn’t try and stick up for the band. It does nothing for the fan base image.
This album is very good. Some songs are average, but “Save Me”, “Victim” and “Tonight the World Dies” are really something. Even I would rate the “Album” at a 3 maybe 3.5 but given the circumstances I think it should be around the 4 mark.
Especially when you listen to what the competition have come out with this year.
what competition? there have been some albums dropped in the last several months that make the song writing on this album sound like preschool kids farting.
Do these random retards that can’t construct a logical sentence just google Avenged Sevenfold reviews to get here? Or is there actually a seedy underbelly of crack babies reading this site just waiting to ruin my day? I’ve only listened to about a 1/4 of this record and only that once or twice, but I think I’ve heard it enough to give it a VERY generous three stars. The first two records still blow it all the fuck outta the water. And City of Evil sounded like shit, for the record. At least that pantywaste singer finally started screaming again on this one, for like one song. Part of one song…
Evidently this is a “the heavier the better” attitude that is permeating throughout the users here. Just give up if you listen to an Avenged album anymore expecting them to revert back to their old ways or give you an 11 track cd of nothing but metal. It’s just not happening. This band has progressed (in many ways) and it’s simply not their style anymore. Those 5 “ballads” you call them? Victim and Tonight The World Dies are vastly superior songs to Natural Born Killer and God Hates Us, the two heaviest. This band writes better rock tunes than they write metal tunes, that much is fact. They understand that which is why they’re not gonna pigeonhole themselves into one sound like you heard on Waking. Anyways, 4/5.
As for competition new Deftones, new Dillinger kill this album, hell, even the new Korn is better.
The only reason this band is still around is so 14 year old girls can say they listen to heavy metal.
they are touring with disturbed and stone sour. nuff said.
It’s decent, I’d give it a 3/5. But yeah, first two albums absolutely destroy anything that came after them.
@ chele, what is with your post. I read about half and then gave up. It’s like you hit a big crack rock right before you wrote that……………..
b.t.w., I’m not at all hating on avenged, so please don’t respond. lol
early A7X was the best. this album is ok but not the best.
weak band, weak album which means the kids will love it. send another 10,000 copies to hot topics everywhere!
I’ve gotta say, this album as well as the new 36 Crazyfists album came out on the same day…huge expectations for both…well I’m satisfied, but only because the 36 album crapped all over this garbage they rushed out, there’s only like three decent songs on the whole album…idk, maybe i need to hear it more to like it, but 5 times through the whole album now and i think i vomited in my mouth a little…poor effort guys…to rush this out after the passing of the rev, this should’ve been epic
36cf cd is much better. support a real band and buy that before you buy this shitty album.
#1 album in the country…I’m sure A7X are really sweating this review. Of course it’s not groundbreaking stuff, and the death of Jimmy probably (read:definitely) amped up the sales of this release. That said, I personally give it a 3.5 after a few listens. I think self titled is a better record personally. Just my .02
/\ /\ album sales do not mean quality album. justin beiber was number 1 for weeks.
And so begins the “art” vs. “entertainment” debate. Bieber = pure entertainment. A7X = elements of both. Crazy Town = the epitome of artistic, musical achievement.
@robichaud does this count for the 100 comments?
I can’t believe it….this album has knocked off Eminem. It’s the No. 1 record in the States. What is the world coming to?
If I had to buy two albums and the only two that the store carried was A7X and Eminem, I’d buy two copies of this.
I’d get one of each. I haven’t heard either, honestly. I haven’t rated this album, so don’t worry about it. From what I know about A7X, I just know they’re not my thing. I’d probably enjoy Eminem more… not sure what that says, heh.
If I went to a store and all they had was avenged sevenfold and eminem, i’d probably blow my brains out.
I hate the fact that this band exists. For some strange reason they’re popular and represent metal to the masses. It’s shit!
Maybe I’m just bitter because I can’t beat Afterlife on Rock Band (that song sucks too btw).
I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out better lyrics than the crap on this record.
LOL @rageagainst123 Yea dude…I mean, I truly can’t get over the fact that this band is so popular…they’re GIGANTIC! There is nothing special about this band.
this band is garbage, and thus the people who like this band are garbage. or high school girls, cause high school girls love this band.
i’m dead serious in saying i would rather listen to Katy Perry’s entire discography than sit through this craptastic album.
That’s not much of an argument if you consider that Katy Perry has released only 3 albums so far.
But on the other hand you might want to keep in mind that the first one was a Gospel records.
@Vautour – Well aren’t we a keener…
Honestly, I don’t understand the undeserved flack this album is receiveing from the posters. This is BY FAR their best album since Waking the Fallen – it’s darker, harder and more grandiose than anything these guys have done for the better part of the decade. Don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t break any barriers when you look at the grand scheme but the songwriting is solid for what it is: brooding mainstream hard rock.
WOOK praises the group’s schizophrenia and the risks they took on the 2007 self titled (which features a track with Muzic Mafia…WTF?) in his review but I feel it’s much more admirable that they chugged forward without The Rev and came out ahead. They’re still a band that wears their influences on their sleeves (mid-90′s Metalllica, AIC on a particular track, definitely some Guns) but it doesn’t seem to take away from the big picture.
I won’t do a track by track breakdown because I’m a lazy fuck and nobody would care anyways, the bottom line is that I’ve been a fan since A7X’s heyday and this hits home moreso than anything they’ve done since 2003. Screw you guys, I’m going home.
Gotta love the people that complain about the bad lyrics like they know a damn thing about writing. You live with your parents, you’ve never written anything and most likely never done anything worth anything. This is aimed right at rageagainst123. Oh and thanks for proving my point by picking a screen name that is half and band name and 123. Very clever. Clearly you are a much better writer than these guys.
The album is ok, not great. But to say you could do better like you are something special is just laughable.
This is the most deepest and darkest album I have ever listened to. There is NOTHING that can compare to Nightmare by Avenged Sevenfold, so all you dumbass losers should fucking shut up already and think before you make assumptions. Obviously their songs are slower on this album. It’s much different than their demo version because they changed every songs lyrics on the album after the Rev died. They are talented musicians and the majority of people know it, why do you think they made it on such a high spot on the billboard? It is only this site that’s messed up.
The only thing people should complain about is this site and the low level of knowledge that exists on here. Most of these motherfuckers commenting are fat losers hiding behind a computer screen and would never insult Avenged Sevenfold that way in real life, while I can spit this in their face any day of the week.
“This is the most deepest and darkest album I have ever listened to.” i lol’d
the guys towards the top talking A7X and Eminem are pissing into the wind on this site. that said, even the tripe that is Recovery is IMMENSLEY better than anything on Nightmare.
@allichs – Make that two of us, heh.
This is the most bestest and awesomestest thread ever.
@Phuck Yah ……roflcopter! I just hope that was fake, or I cringe for this generation, and its musical unintelligence.
Deepest and darkest album, you have to be 13, or related to one of the band, and while some of people on this site may be living at their mom’s house and/or live in front of the computer all day, some of us have been on theprp.com for 10 + years now, with families, in their 20′s, with jobs they’re temporarily neglecting to argue with kids about music.
“This is the most deepest and darkest album I have ever listened to.” Somebody wanna get this kid a Deicide record?
@jayofdajungle – are you spying on me?, PRP since ’01 – and getting paid as we speak
@vujaa de, it’s settled then GJ fans are winners
This album being the deepest and darkest is like saying Limp Bizkit is the heavist band ever.
Truly, jay.. haha that’s rich
Everything that Phuck Yah said is so laughable that it is the Community Service quote. What’s even funnier is that he says the members of this site have no music knowledge because most of us arent a7x fans. Guy, this site covers high brow music. If you dont like it you can watch MTV news with Kurt Loader and see how Avenged is at the top of the charts with Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, and (insert piece of shit excuse for a musician here). Just because its popular does not mean its good. “If your message aint shit, fuck the records you sold because if it goes platinum its got nothing to do with luck, it just means the a million people are stupid as fuck.” – Immortal Technique
@ Phuck Yah. I have been coming to this site for 10 years. I am not that old (upper 20s) and still not fat. that said, I would gladly cuss A7X anyday. I am just lucky enough not to live in Cali with the rest of the world’s assholes. Fuck you, A7X, and the Rev.’s dead body. Get a musical opinion worth posting, then comment dickhead. I am sure those who run this site did post your comments on the opening page only to fuck with the rest of us and then giggle. Dark album my ass. Silver Chair scare me more! hahaha.
the soundtrack to any Tyler Perry movie is deeper and darker than this garbage, and for the record i just heard bat country on the radio on my way in this morning, what an awful and embarrasing fucking “tribute” to Hunter S. Thompson, when they shot his ashes out of that cannon they should of had the singer looking down into it.
@vujaa de, yeah dude you ever heard the “Diary of a Mad Black Woman” soundtrack? It’s like “Diary of Madman” but madder, blacker, and at least twice as sassy.
^ Oh No I didn’t! (finger wag, head shake)
This is one of the funniest threads I’ve ever seen on this site. Avenged Senvefuck is a horrible, horrible band. I saw someone actually have the balls to put them and deftones in the same sentance. They don’t even belong in the same thought as the deftones let alone spoken word. The lead vocalist from A7X is the worst vocalist to ever step foot in a studio. That band is full of douche bag wanna be’s. Any dru hill album is darker than any A7X album.
silly.
@ Phuck Yah : Obviously,and unfortunately for you, you probably never listened to good music. You must feel…wrong? I can’t believe people still call themself metalheads while listening to this garbage, consommative music. It doesn’t even have a refund when you bring it back.
i cannot believe this album debuted at #1 on the billboard charts…. i mean don’t get me wrong, there are a lot worse things someone can listen to than A7X.. they’re not the worst band or anything, i’ve got a handful of their songs in my iTunes, and i think they’re a great gateway band for kids that are getting into rock, metal, or punk…. but wow, #1?
just to clarify, i think THIS album by them sucks…. but their old stuff is… eh, decent enough.
anybody who compares this steaming pile to pantera should be next on the nathan gale hit list…
FUCK! why do all the best musicians have to die… RIP Dimebag, We need you now more then ever!
I Am Legend, you have the best icon ever.
I havent heard this album yet. But I do agree with wookubus review. I remember reading the city of evil review and agreed 100%. The negative aspects of this album/band sound pretty much the way I felt about them with city of evil. so guess nothings changed for GnR 2
Good God! This album is unbelievable! I don’t understand what it is about this band that people don’t like! They put together their best work with this album, and that’s saying a lot, because Waking The Fallen was genius. People need to stop calling people “pitty whores” and saying that the only reason this band is big is because of their tragedy. They were big before that, and just as talented! This album is beautiful, heavy, dark, emotional, and REAL. Everything on this album is from the heart. Love A7X, Love this album, and they sound nothing like the self-indulged GnR. The influences are there, of course, but there’s also heavy Metallica influence, Pantera, and even Pink Floyd. Maybe the reviewer and everyone else that doesn’t like this, should actually LISTEN to the album. foREVer!!!!!! A7X>, much greater, than, dare I say…Deftones mr. I’m on a Horse (Great Commercial, though.) A7X is real music.
@Metalhead27 – Ugh, buddy. Why did you have to cap it all off with A7X > anything, let alone the Deftones? I can hear the ‘Tones Army march in the distance… heh heh.
I love how everyone just jumps on the Deftones to get people pissed off. Personally, I can’t stand Avenged Sevenfold for the same reason most bands these days are terrible. They all sound just like their influences. Skip this album and by a Botch record.
Not their best record but the drumming is awesome, and I really enjoy fiction, but some of the record sounds rushed, having said that I’ll respect the reason and inspiration for why this album was made
is this what the Trans-Siberian Orchestra plays when they arnt playing xmas music?
there songs are more staile then a 10 year old open bag of patato chips
at the first rehersel this was said, “hey guys lets make up really corny names and dress like faggy vampires and play crappy 80s hair metal.”
i am basicly trying that i am going out to by this cd asap and make love to it over and over again….
thank god bands like the sword and bison bc exist to counter act the crap that ax7 puts out.
“The Sword?” Really? THAT counters A7X? I’m truly sick of underground metal. What is the difference between bands like Unearth and Norma Jean? I do have a lot of respect for Meshuggah, Fear Factory, Threat Signal and Shadows Fall: they’re all amazing! But almost every other band that you’ll probably find featured on an Ozzfest second stage (*minus* BLS, Slipknot or Mushroomhead) is crap. A7X is real talent, with real heart and soul in their music. Also, how do you insult Trans Siberian Orchestra? They are pure genius, it’s beyond words. Anyway, this album is incredible.
Underground metal, mainstream metal, blah blah blah. Let’s just all admit it now: Avenged Sevenfold isn’t metal.
And just about every band that plays Ozzfest sucks.
lol everyone lisen to that xmas crap called trans siberian orchestra and let me know if u cant insult it and why would ur name be metalhead if ur not into underground metal thats lame as hell the best metal bands where and are underground american head charge strapping yound lad dillinger chimaira mastodon all these bands are fuckin sick and have written better stuff when they where 8 then a7xl or whatever they call themselfs will write avenged is for 12 year old vampire kids with nothing better to do then suck on there best friends necks drinking grape juice
A7X = pop (i.e. popular music). Just ‘cuz it goes chugga-chugga here and there, doesn’t mean it’s not pop. Some pop music is good…*ahem*… some…
A7X have maybe 3-5 good songs and, those songs were off the first 2 cd’s.
These guys are white boyz, so what they got a little groove? You just haten’ cause you still don’t know how to dance. Ahahaha! Well, I’m just saying, these guys aren’t really my thing but, I can see they do have some talent.
“If I had to buy two albums and the only two that the store carried was A7X and Eminem, I’d buy two copies of this.” Then you are a idiot
“A7X>, much greater, than, dare I say…Deftones mr. I’m on a Horse (Great Commercial, though.) A7X is real music.” Stop talking…you have no idea what real music is…as proven by that absolutely ignorant statement. Deftones shits all over A7X, and then some. Any intelligent human being would understand that.
Phuck Yah, you are beyond ignorant. I would say all that shit to your face and then some. I am quite sure you are the same fat kid behind the computer you all claim us to be. Grow some fuckin balls you dipshit and actually know what the fuck you are talking about before you say something again *spits at you* yeah…you can deal with that on here and in real life lol. Wimp ass.
Seriously…the only good album by these guys is Waking the Fallen. Thats it.
good album so melodic good choruses
Shitty band shitty album. this band fucking blows. How about some real metal you jackasses. For all you a7x fans. Do yourself a favor and go check out a Gwar or Municipal Waste show.
this bullshit got Revolver Mag. # 1 album of 2010. how lame
@ southpawchew
So, is this all one sentence, or…?
You might wanna lay off the crack
I like Avenged Sevenfold. But this is a great review. I’ve seen them several times, and I’m convinced that Shadows is the weakest link. Instrumentally they are great, but his songwriting is weak and delivery lacks charisma. Nightmare is easily their weakest release.
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