The decision for Falling In Reverse to cancel their appearance at this past September’s ‘WIIL ROCK Fest‘ over several missing laptops has set the stage for an ongoing public feud among different generations or rock musicians.
The Ronnie Radke-led Falling In Reverse backed out of their their set at that festival after being unable to locate the laptops they use for backing tracks at their concerts. In a video statement apologizing for the cancellation issued at the time, Radke in-part stated, “…As a band in 2022, you need your laptops. It’s like driving a car without an engine.”
This led to SiriusXM host to discuss the matter on social media, offering:
“This is astonishing .. First I heard about this I thought it was a joke to wind me up. How much longer are fans, promoters , media, just going to accept the epidemic of live rock shows… not really being live? Paying your hard earned money to see a band play ‘live’ that’s not truly live?! And there are countless bands in 2022 that hone their craft and play live! Tons! New and old !! Including the one that subbed for them in their slot, Jackyl . No laptop needed there! This is just unreal. But at least I give them credit for being honest. Wow. I am closer than ever to launching my own band. And I can’t sing or play a note .. simply amazing.”
Trunk also shaded Falling In Reverse while praising the live abilities of Aerosmith, leading to Radke to reply to Trunk:
.@EddieTrunk so you wanna talk hella Shit about laptops but go watch kiss lip sync, Steven Tyler plays the piano then half way through the song he stands on top of piano while it sill plays yet here we are acting like they all don’t use tracks you fucking idiot. Literal moron pic.twitter.com/5tot7FNt1S
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
.@Eddietrunk you got a podcast? That shit better not have tracks and be all be live and if you aren’t using full analog you’re a poser I wanna see you like this picture if not shut your stupid was up you literal dinosaur pic.twitter.com/bxPW7qNXOp
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
Radke offered further in response:
I have the best drummer, 3 Insanely great singers and 2 great lead guitarist. that all play very well, these fools acting like we are just dancing around the stage to tracks not playing.
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
He then went on to share a video of Trunk introducing Sebastian Bach:
.@EddieTrunk introducing @sebastianbach using tracks, both idiots talking Shit about me using tracks can’t make this shit up. pic.twitter.com/5lI8D6lSzE
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
This led to Sebastian Bach wading into the matter and starting a heated back and forth with Radke. Bach, who previously went to war with Chris Jericho for allegedly lip syncing in Fozzy several years back, jumped into the fray with:
Wow dummy are you trying to say that you believe that I use tracks on stage? @EddieTrunk how f****** funny is this ?? https://t.co/IMincNCxQ9
— Sebastian Bach (@sebastianbach) October 1, 2022
Radke followed with:
There’s a fake audience cheer in your intro tracks and also fake drums the fuck you mean? that shit isn’t real you are using a fake audience cheering as you walk out on a fucking track hence you using tracks. https://t.co/jOjU5tVJXC
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
I have the best drummer, 3 Insanely great singers and 2 great lead guitarist. that all play very well, these fools acting like we are just dancing around the stage to tracks not playing.
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
A since-deleted tweet by Bach followed, reading “Watch what happens when track bands call real musicians idiots.” Radke replied in kind:
The fuck is your bitch ass gonna do? You disrespect an entire generation of people after you that use synths laptops and backing tracks all while using a fake audience on a track as you walk out, fuck you and fuck Eddie trunks bitch ass https://t.co/rzLgnTbVJP
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
In another since-deleted tweet, Bach fired back:
“It’s always so much fun to show someone what the world was like before the internet existed get f****** ready. Virtual reality is so much fun until you have to deal with actual reality. In your face. Can’t wait to meet you in person. Name the time and the place and I will introduce you to rock and roll in person man”.”
Radke responded:
At the same time you have an entire generation that once admired you until your dumb ass disrespected all of them. We get it you don’t like bands that use backing tracks but it’s okay for you ti walk out to a fake audience cheer the fuck outta here https://t.co/rzLgnTbVJP
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
What a fucking BUMMER this man that we all once loved is literally disrespecting an entire generation of bands. You got a lot of people that grew up listening to you you should be ashamed of yourself. Shit changes so do people the fuck is your problem https://t.co/3yd0wlsl9p
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
Radke would continue to call out Bach on Twitter, offering:
.@sebastianbach am I crazy or this you quite literally performing with only a laptop and tracks https://t.co/zP0oQHi6Lv
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
Falling In Reverse guitarist/vocalist Christian Thompson also chimed in on a separate jab launched by Bach:
Ladies & Gentlemen
Children of the Internet
Witness a video
This is called rock music
No computers#NoTapes#NoFakes
No Falling in Reverse
Just about 3 weeks of vocal training
& 3 friends on stage
If you spend your life playing music that's all you needhttps://t.co/yi4zYCXRYu— Sebastian Bach (@sebastianbach) October 2, 2022
We play our instruments and sing live, you decrepit fucking idiot hahahaha. The only thing tracked = orchestral parts, choirs and hip-hop beats. Quick, someone take this man’s supply of Aquanet away before he kills those last remaining brain cells. https://t.co/bY5DxuGRic
— architechnology (@FIRChristian) October 2, 2022
Radke went on to launch into a series of disses aimed at Bach, including:
Brendan fraiser everybody… pic.twitter.com/mopgmKalZP
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
Just falling in reverse @ rehearsal doing popular monster live so @EddieTrunk who has zero musical insight can give us a thumbs up on Facebook pic.twitter.com/xNwsHn3m6S
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
Just hired this entire orchestra, bought their flights, hotel, food, 4 buses, so they can play the 35 second intro of voices in my head so @EddieTrunk can respect us on his podcast that has less listeners than people in this picture pic.twitter.com/oe4mrG1al8
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach makes his drummer stare at this because a computer is cheating pic.twitter.com/0WhIqem8pg
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach sending a tweet like… pic.twitter.com/aFHpSjXNNd
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach on his way to show me what real rock n roll is pic.twitter.com/l1d0RqIgAY
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach driving to the 7 eleven pic.twitter.com/qypEEkDdHE
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach catching me outside the Excalibur hotel and casino after his set next to the blackjack tables pic.twitter.com/ovUYERq8WW
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@SebastianBach waking up reading his mentions pic.twitter.com/1k8rmJ3pQo
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach @eddietrunk and any other literal clown: I guess Queen isn’t real Rock since in 1986 they used full tracks to play bohemian rhapsody and walked off stage pic.twitter.com/oL7EG6r1zN
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
Bach jumped back in:
Laptops were not invented in 1986 tho?? You realize that laptops didn't come around till like 1997 right genius? So then how did Queen get on the stage? If laptops were not invented don't they have 2 cancel the show? How did this clip happen without laptops isn't that impossible? https://t.co/DF9lmnglVz
— Sebastian Bach (@sebastianbach) October 2, 2022
Hey kids. There seems 2be confusion as2 what an intro tape is what an outro tape is & what bands playing2 click tracks are. Concerts start with an intro that the band walks on2, & an outro that the band walks off2. When the show starts musicians play live. Even without laptops ??
— Sebastian Bach (@sebastianbach) October 2, 2022
And Radke went back on the attack:
Bro you really are that stupid aren’t you hahahaha https://t.co/0jO03lrWow
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
This is besides the point but here’s another L https://t.co/0jO03lrWow pic.twitter.com/LnigKqD0Ri
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
okay since you are adamant on thinking that we aren’t real musicians… let’s start with how many instruments both of us can play.. lets see who’s a real musician then lol I’ll start with piano…. https://t.co/66oSmXFNTa
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@Sebastianbach that was a Taylor Hawkins tribute show, Taylor Hawkins drew the crowd. Are you taking credit from him now too? pic.twitter.com/GWUmgfSu4z
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach nice laptop poser pic.twitter.com/AJ0KHqm5Vf
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 3, 2022
Amid the confrontation, Radke did draw some support from several musical artists, including All That Remains vocalist Phil Labonte, who offered:
The fact that @SebastianBach is mad that bands use modern technology to enhance the show and bring the best possible night of entertainment for the concert goer is hilarious to me. @RonnieRadke is right, my dude. ?????
— DISSIDENT (@philthatremains) October 2, 2022
Labonte‘s bandmate, guitarist Jason Richardson also added:
Same, I’m gonna start bringing all these people on tour too just so it’s all “live” + taiko ensemble, 200 person choir, multiple synth players, all the crew to maintain these instruments so ignorant boomers will think I “pLaY LiVe”… or I could just bring a fucking laptop lmao https://t.co/ngIWs3l0fF
— Jason Richardson (@jasonGRIN) October 2, 2022
Stray From The Path drummer Craig Reynolds offered his piece as well:
regarding the falling in reverse pulling out of a show because their laptops failed: i know you guys LOVE a pile-on but you are fully tripping if you think most of today’s metalcore bands wouldn’t have to do the same thing.
— craig reynolds (@reynlord) October 1, 2022
Crown The Empire bassist/vocalist Hayden Tree also got involved:
I’ll play the metronome pic.twitter.com/3JNzeu0yIQ
— MUNK (@blessedbymunk) October 2, 2022
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