A nasty war of words between current and former members of Latin nü-metallers Ill Niño has once again spilled out online. A post recently shared by the group’s ex-vocalist Marcos Leal seems to have triggered this latest heated exchange, which has been playing out between himself and the band’s guitarist Jes De Hoyos.
In a post shared on his social media this past Monday, January 13th, Leal blasted his former bandmates in the group, claiming their failure to thus far deliver their two-part ‘IllMortals‘ EP set that missed several release dates last year was due to “incompetence”. Venting his exasperation in that post, Leal also at one point made direct mention of De Hoyos.
“In the end none of it mattered towards the cause I was fighting for, and It doesn’t matter how many tik toc videos Jes makes telling you something different or who members are or aren’t, he was not invested in to do what I did for the band, he doesn’t play one riff on this record so really his voice on the matter is irrelevant and the saddest part is this situation cost friendships of over 15 years over straight up lies and incompetence, but that’s neither here or there anymore, this record still sits untouched and if it ever does come out it will just be thrown up without any kind of promotion or any of the things that were promised to the fans or the band members and producers who worked their ass off on it and believe in it.”
De Hoyos has since taken to firing back at his former bandmate. In a post shared on social media yesterday, January 14th, he stated:
“Every claim that this puto has made can be attributed to personal gain. If he gave af about the fans, releasing the albums would be irrelevant because the fans that preordered the record were refunded. Na, he wants the record to be released because it would be released by a band that’s bigger than anything he’s ever been part of and it helps his current bands have any kind of press.
He’s never been an original member to any of the bands that have gained any sort of traction. This mf is a serial fill in. As far as why them 15 year friendships are no more, it’s because he used us to leverage money out of the boss, without our consent and without us even knowing about it while putting targets on all our backs. That aside, he knew we had a brother coming out of rehab for alcoholism, just before an upcoming tour and he knew that that same brother was told that if he didn’t stop drinking, he would die, in months.
The rest of us agreed to do a sober run to give him a fighting chance and the mf refused to go 4 weeks without drinking to help a brother. No one said he couldn’t drink when he went home, it was just while we were on tour. Don’t let the tears of a fuckin lloron fool you. He brought this down on himself. This is how he treats people he claims are family to him. THAT is why the “friendships of 15 years” were the cost. He’s not the good, honest man, with good morals that everyone thinks he is. That’s why he’s no longer in the circle. If y’all only knew the shit that goes on within his own household and family..hell his own family doesn’t know the shit he did on tour. Like I said before, “I’m doing more for that mf by keeping his secrets than anyone knows”. We’ve got receipts too.
For the fucking record, I did one side of the guitars (typically, two sides, left and right), you hear on “Mascara” and the Selena cover, “Si Una Vez”, Which was embarrassing vocally. The other songs were written and tracked by Dave and the producer before I joined the band. If this mf is as good as he claims, why does he need to be associated with ill Nino to promote them? “Former singer of Ill Nino”.
Leal responded back roughly an hour later, offering:
“Jes running his mouth like he wasn’t one of my best friends for years on end! Typical
Here’s a couple of picks of us beers in hand like we always did (Hypocrite)Oh and when all his Sons Of Texas Bandmates bailed on his ass, who was the one who vouched for him to be in Nino? Your boi
Oh when he quit the band cause he got covid and got left in a hotel room, who vouched for him to come back and deal with Dave? Your boi
Really fuckin scummy move to bring up Sals hardships with rehab but since he decided to air that bit of dirty laundry… Only reason he was back was to take sals spot and the only reason he’s still there cause he is cheaper than Marc Rizzo! Facts!
“Sals not gonna learn his lesson until it’s too late” your words not mine I was always there for Sal always and honestly your not worth dragging him through the mud just so you don’t look like a dumb ass with your post.
Not an original member? I’m an original member of both Shattered Sun & Swim the Current All still some of my best friends Ask yourself why all his bandmates bailed on him and don’t want a thing to do with him ?!?! Who knows but who was always in his corner when he was chasing down Marc Morales for playing sons of Texas songs? your boi!
Funny stuff, I’m a serial fill in? But what are you right now ? You are only there cause your cheaper than a actual world renowned guitar player in Rizzo Couldn’t even land a solo in front of 50 thousands people but out here running his mouth like he contributed anything to the band
And where’s Dave in all this, hiding behind his fill ins post! This is what manipulation and alittle bit of money and clout does, turns friends against eachother!
I’m sorry Dave never let you play or write anything the new record, It’s not that you weren’t good enough, your great, it’s cause he didn’t wanna pay you the money that we are currently fighting over now!
Face facts my friend your in same boat as me with way less to show for it and no ground to argue anything, that’s why your “boss” lol entered into an agreement with me and your still stuck making peanuts getting lied too… that’s what a “fill in” in your position gets in that band
I’m sorry Dave lied to you that you think your riffs are still there on the record He didn’t tell you he had them replaced cause you recorded them in your living room and they didn’t cut it … Manipulation is ugly my friend
Broken up friendships, and where’s Dave? Hiding behind a guy he doesn’t let write anything, won’t give a contract too and is only there cause he didn’t wanna pay Rizzo what he’s worth Sad day that this has to happen publicly
This is the type of shit they talk about when they say “The music business is an ugly business” It’s cause of people like you and your boss Shame on you for airing that about Sal, and losing a brother over a couple of dollars and some clout!
“LEAD GUITARIST OF ILL NIÑO” Yeah only cause Rizzo bailed ! Enjoy the title!
I bring up an album, they bring up my family …
This is the “SHIT SHOW” that is Ill Nino!”
