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Machine Head’s Robb Flynn: “We May Have Fired Adam On 2-11-13, But Adam Quit Machine Head Well Over A Decade Ago”

Machine Head vocalist/guitarist Robb Flynn has revealed that bassist Adam Duce was in fact fired. Speaking in his ongoing series of journals, Flynn posted:

“As much as I do not want to write this journal, I promised you I’d write them “at least once a week”. Good, bad, happy or sad… so this is what has to be done. 2-11-13. That is the date we fired Adam Duce. That is the day that I had to tell Adam that after 21 years of being in a band together, I just couldn’t take it anymore.

That is the day I said “My hope is that this can be amicable.” The words sounded like someone else had spoken them. It was like being outside of my body watching someone else deliver these painful words. But, it was me saying it. And we all said it.

We had our say sitting in our jam room in Oakland. Dave said it. Joseph (our manager) said it. Phil said it. We all said that we couldn’t take being in a band with him anymore. That if this didn’t happen, we were going to break up the band. It was hard. One of the hardest moments of my life. It was also a long time coming. We may have fired Adam on 2-11-13, but Adam quit Machine Head well over a decade ago. He just never bothered to tell anyone… but we all knew it.

Contrary to popular belief, being in a band is tough. Really fucking tough. It’s the toughest sonofabitch you’ll ever come across in your life and it will beat the living shit out of you 80% of the time. Many times it feels like one big rollercoaster, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. There are wins and losses seemingly every single day. Being in a band is one of life’s strangest gambles.

But when you do win, when you win that 20%, well… it truly is salvation. It’s what makes eating the other 80% of that shit-sandwich bearable. It’s where “those” stories come from. It can be the best job you’ll ever have and unquestionably one of the hardest you’ll ever have. But until you’ve done it for 20+ years, you have no clue. Until you’ve held a band together for 20+ years, you really don’t know jack shit about it.

You think you do.

You don’t.

A band is a dysfunctional family. A brotherhood, a family business, and a renaissance-era-court. You’re room-mates in studio-apartment-on-wheels for years-at-a-time, 24-hours-a-day. Plus you’re in the pressure cooker of the spotlight, every move analyzed, read into, or attacked. Everybody wants something from you, everybody wants to be your friend, everybody loves you, everybody can do so-much-better-for-you-than-the-people-you-have-now. Some people try and turn you against each other, and everyone wants to take credit for your success.

Often time you’re enemies. At odds and fighting about something, but “pretending” everything is “fine” onstage.

But it isn’t…

You just wear a mask that looks like it’s fine, and after 20 years, we know that mask so well, it slides on way too fuckin’ easy.

Adam hasn’t been happy in this band for a long time. But how do you leave? To a guy like Adam everything is either winning or losing. A stunning victory or the ultimate failure. There was no in-between. And while that sounds great for a TV show or an interview-sound-bite, or even a John Wayne movie that wraps up in 90 minutes… life just isn’t like that.

And life certainly isn’t like that for a band like Machine Head. A band who operate in the upper-middle-tier. For us, there are no stunning victories, only respectable wins. No ultimate failures, just better-luck-next-times. We carved a niche, we OWN that niche, but it’s still just a niche. Nothing wrong with that.

No matter how un-happy or fed up he got, quitting the band would be seen as “losing” or a “failure”. Truth be told, he was sick of it. Sick of touring, sick of recording, sick of practicing, sick of looking at album artwork, sick of being-on-a-team-but-never-getting-the-ball, sick of yearning-for-the-honeymoon-to-resume when 20 years deep it never does. Sick of never quite hitting the big-time, sick of carving the niche… sick of caring.

I don’t blame him. It’s hard to keep the passion.

But he just wouldn’t quit.

We wanted him to quit. We were hoping he would quit, “guys, my heart isn’t in this anymore, it was a good run, later dayz”. We didn’t want it to come to this…

But he wouldn’t.

I didn’t feel anything as I drove away from the jam room that night. When I awoke the next morning I didn’t feel anything either. I wasn’t “numb,” I still “felt”, was just kinda blank. But three days after the meeting, an argument broke out in the jam room about how conflicted I felt about it. Then I cried.

I cried and cried.

I’ve cried every day since. I’ve been an emotional wreck. I cried writing this. I was sick the day that we announced it (11 days and 2 General Journals after actually doing it), walking around about to vomit for hours.

I met with him for a couple hours last Wednesday, met with him yesterday. It’s civil.

I don’t know what else to say.

I don’t have some inspirational quote to end with here. I’m not gonna sit here and tell you everything is gonna be all right, or that’s it gonna be the same. At this moment I can’t even bring myself to say that it’s going to be better.

Why?

Because it sucks.

It fucking sucks.

It sucks for everyone who tried to save this.

It sucks more than you can imagine…

It’s a horrible relief.”

COMMENTS

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    • BloodyBoneKummer     February 26, 2013 at 11:54 am

      Shitty situation to be put in for Robb.
      I felt bad for him.
      Sometimes you got to lose the finger to save the hand tho.

      And got to respect the Duce for never quitting..everyone hates their jobs after awhile but that doesn’t mean you necessarily just quit.
      Rational decision making.

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    • I’m sure many of us have gone through things like this in small local bands at some point… so though I can’t imagine what it feels like for band with their status, I sure know where he’s coming from!

      Aside from this situation, each day I have more respect for this man who is extremely open and true to himself; two things that metalheads and people in general should remember to be more often!

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    • MyDarkPassenger     February 26, 2013 at 12:50 pm

      I typically think of this guy as being intelligent and well-versed, but sometimes when I read these journals of his I get the feeling he’s a little bit pseudo-intelligent. LIke trying to make profound statements that ultimately come up flat. Is it just me?

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      • Just you…Robb is all heart. You can sort of tell he isn’t the most educated man in the world and obviously didn’t go to college, but the man is about as sincere and open these days as you’re gonna find out of a metal musician.

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    • coolguy2424     February 26, 2013 at 5:36 pm

      That was a brutal truth read right there. The kid was done and that is that . I don’t know why but this band needed change. Nobody got killed in south central LA and today was a good day….

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    • Jesus Christ, Robb, stop being so overly dramatic about this shit. You said it yourself, homeboy “quit” well over a decade ago and you were ready for him to peace out. You wanted it, the three of you made it happen, now move on without the cancer as a stronger, more unified band. For fuck’s sake, am I the only one who thinks none of this needed to be shared with the fans?

      On the bright side, maybe Duce can start a band with Logan, Kontos and Ahrue. Any band name suggestions?

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      • I partly agree with you here on the fact that this stuff doesnt need to be shared with the fans. Some things are better left unsaid, or to the imagination. Metallica broke that wall down with some kind of monster, and now this bullshit facebook generation we live in has poeple pouring out their every little thought all over the internet, and its just a lot of shit that doesn’t need to be “out there”. I still read every line and sincerely feel for his confliction, but now i also have to picture the dude singing Davidian crying about his lost boyfriend, and man that just doesn’t sit well.

        Also, can we please end the Bullet For My Valentine advertisement tirade?!? That banner keeps interrupting me logging in!

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    • agree with most here. Fans probably don’t need to know all the ins and outs, and I can tell you Robb being in a band isn’t the hardest thing you will ever do in your life. If it is, you’ve been blessed.

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