Late Slipknot Bassists Physician Charged With Eight Counts Of Involuntary Manslaughter
The Des Moines Register have word that Des Moines, IA physician Daniel Baldi has been charged with eight counts of involuntary manslaughter. The charges allege that Baldi perscribed large amounts of painkillers to his patients—a number of whom later died from overdoses.
Among the eight counts he is charged with is the death of late Slipknot bassist Paul Gray. Gray‘s 2010 death was ruled as an accidental overdose of morphine and fentanyl. Slipknot percussionist M. Shawn “Clown” Crahan has since spoken on the legal proceedings to the aforementioned site and you can read his thoughts at this location.
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Oh shit.
This may turn into another “my crawl jax won” case..
‘As the loss of our brother Paul Gray is still very fresh for us in the Slipknot family, this new development has us all in a state of anger and sadness. The fact that this person took advantage of our brother’s illness while he was in a position to help others has outraged everyone in our family. We can only hope that justice will be served so this can NEVER happen to anyone else ever again! Our thoughts go out to the families of the other victims. We plan to cooperate as much as we possibly can to ensure this tragedy is never repeated, and to make sure this man pays for what he has done.
-Slipknot’
from their facebook page.
if this is true…. well… damn
Call me insensitive, but I don’t realize why people think that consuming massive amounts of pain killers isn’t going to do MAJOR damage to your body. I’ve lost too many goddamn friends to this kind of addiction, and it is such a foolish habit and way of life. Yes, pharmy companies make astronomical amounts of money on these kind of drugs, but a grown man should understand when he is going too far…. as should his friends and loved ones.
The man is dead, period. He overdosed on drugs, and it was his choice to do so. Accept it, and move the fuck on. Doctors are always going to be irresponsible with their patients which is one of the reasons I take their words with a grain of salt. Now just because the Slipknot guys are worth a zillion dollars, this doctor will probably get screwed in the ass. Sounds about right for America.
You seem to ignore one major focal point that these charges are trying to make people aware of…
“Doctors are always going to be irresponsible with their patients which is one of the reasons I take their words with a grain of salt.”
You’re telling me it’s acceptable that a person should have to take a doctor’s word with a grain of salt given he/she went to school for 10 years to specialize in whatever it is they have done? Yes, personal responsibility is nice but so is addiction. Did they elaborate on why Gray was given painkillers in the first place? You basically pointed to it already…pharm companies make a ton of money off it. That’s on the doctors, not the patients. They’re the ones who are supposed to know more about the drugs than the average person and ultimately they’re the ones who decide whether the patient gets treated with painkillers or not.
I know from personal experience that it says nowhere on the bottle of pills that you should crush them and snort them to your brain, but that seems to be the method of choice for people unfortunately. Maybe not for Mr. Gray (RIP) but I’m sure in court if the dosage levels in his blood were through the roof, the doctor will probably be able to make a case for himself. Patients aren’t advised to take 10-20x the average amount of pills a day. Like most addicts do.
The sad part about pain killer addiction, is that over time it only makes the pain seem far worse than it was initially. Requires you to take more and more. Ain’t much you can do for a person deep in that place.
Secondly, as far as I’m concerned if you aren’t on the field of battle with a limb dangling off or on a delivery table pushing an infant out yer cooch, you shouldn’t be taking morphine at all. Just my two cents.
I got my hands on fentanyl a handful of times when I was still using. That shit was fuckin’ serious. By the time I discovered it, I was already pretty serious into that shit and had a wild tolerance. But one of those big-ass patches would have me nodding off hard core.
This is horseshit. True, the dude may have prescribed large amount of painkillers but that DOES NOT change the fact that Paul Gray died from consuming multiple drugs at once. That is what killed him, not the quantity of the drug prescribed. Dafuckouttahereman.
wurst thank u for voice of reason, an reassurance that the tweak rant novel I just left on other slipknot post (that will prolly never be read) wasn’t all for not or as singular( of interpretation & thoughts on subject) as its lonely presents inadvertently conveys, regardless of merit. Hopefully that made sense, at the point mentally where formulating sentences should be thought of as something foriegn, like reading brail or teaching remedial spanish to a russian toddler. Something I never learned to do. at least till my mind is rested, I’ll be lucky if this is communicated enough for a basic understanding. My intentions were good, an if nothing else know the rare times I do chime in on reply’s, its usually you. So respect to you. Even tho I’m sure between words(being inert/dead) & the shackles of language that come w/ this awful way (text) we all communicate now. Im sure much is lost in the communication process, but I dig seeing your swing on things quite often. Even tho it can be completely crass sometimes, there’s usually this level of educated thought or analasys; beyond the typical “”Bovine America”…. “I heard it on TV, from a friend, that uncle i look up to told etc” whatever the source be, “the gossip that’s becomes as good as gospel” and then passed of as ppl’s convictions. So they think & will argue based on that lil shit nugget of “truth” or what they make their truth. It’s crazy how many ppl dont have that drive or acknowledgment of needing to figure out what “truth” or “closest to logical explanation” is for themselves. So its refreshing when I stumble onto such, especially recurring. its sad how much so & this rant is a pathetic representation of just of how uncommon it is, at least for me. I assume ur at least 30? Just from presentation and articulation picked up on. sry so long, but if length alone is nu-sense, like it seems to be for so many of the gen. pop. presently; then I’m sry I wasted both of our time. clarity seems less weird then exceeding typical length of whatev. standard. I got so far, its like why not finish
Reminds me of the psychiatrist on the first season of Dexter.
Damn, that seems forever ago. Do you mean the second season, that English brunette broad?
Nope, the dude that would convince the high-profile women to kill themselves and would videotape the sessions. Dexter went and saw him for a couple trips.
Drawing a blank, and that’s probably my favorite show haha.
Dr. Emmett Meridian
http://dexterwiki.wetpaint.com/page/Dexter%27s+Victims
I wish my Dr would give me Pkillers
You gotta want it bad enough. Cut off a finger or something.
I was fucked up for ten years before I got clean in 08. I have seen this shit take people all the way down through there, and I’ve seen some of them come back, I’ve seen some of them head to the penitentiary, and I’ve seen several die. I’ve talked to friends’ parents and girlfriends and buddies who have this anger in them so deep and so reckless that they press and press for someone to get the blame, to pay, to go to jail. And I couldn’t disagree more. If you’re a drug dealer, you should be arrested for selling drugs. If you’re a doctor and you’re prescribing shit illegally, you should have your license stripped and you should be prosecuted for breaking that law. If you sell or prescribe painkillers to someone who then, of their own volition, takes that shit and keels over dead, that’s no one’s fault but the user’s, And that is a sad, ugly fact, and it’s a hard, hard thing to hear when emotions run high. But an attempted murder charge is excessive. I’ve seen a very similar scenario happen when a guy was prosecuted for attempted murder after he sold dope to a friend of mine who OD’d on it and died. Terrible situation. But the guy didn’t kill anyone. He sold pills to a guy, a friend of his, who asked for them willingly and paid for them willingly. My friend’s death was his fault. It’s ugly and it’s sad, but this is the choice you make when you fuck with that shit. I wish the best to all involved in this Slipknot shit, but also the families and friends of this doctor… and especially the doctor, himself. Other facts may come out later, but for now that’s where I stand.
Way to go, schuler! 4 years clean. Keep up the good fight! Addiction is always a struggle, even when one beats it, so it takes great strength to stay sober.
Thanks, man.
maybe the guy shouldnt of kept doing the meds if he wasnt feeling right. i mean if i did what my doc said i would still be on antidepressants. just saying that if shit dont feel right he should of stopped
So does this mean I can sue my local bottle shop owner for letting me buy 2 bottles of Johnny and waking up with a near death hangover the next morning?
“Yes Your Honor, It wasn’t my fault that I drank all that liqueur…” — Yep, I’d like to see how well that’ll fly.
This ain’t going to solve anything. It’s just going to drag Paul’s family into court, possibly only to hear the judge talk about personal accountability.
You are prescribed drugs based on what you tell your doctor is wrong with you and how much pain you claim to be in. But you start making party cocktails with them for the purpose of “getting fucked up” then yeah. Can’t feel bad for you if you accidentally turned yourself to a ghost. Even dumber when u point the finger at someone else who was only trying to help. Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
I am really disgruntled with the bands comments on this situation. Yes I agree doctors who run pain clinics are just legal drug dealers who are praying on another person’s illness. With that being said…
Slipknot as a family, a band and a business also need to be charged with Paul’s death. They are just as responsible as this doctor is. They knew what Paul was doing and how bad he was. He didn’t just wake up one day and go today i’m going to start abusing morphine. That addiction was built from years of substance abuse that they not only had first hand knowledge about but probably participated in themselves.
Their whole statement on this charges leveled against this doctor have brought me to point of never wanting to listen their music again.
HAS COREY STOOD UP AND SAID WE FAILED OUR “BROTHER”. He should anyone in that band should. You call someone your family and your brother and you watch them kill themselves. You never call your management or paul and say hey either you seek treatment or you don’t tour. if you don’t tour you don’t have money.
COREY TAYLOR YOU MAKE ME FUCKING SICK TO MY STOMACH. YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FUCKING JOKE OF A “FAMILY” OR “BAND”. YOU WANT TO THROW THIS DOCTOR UNDER THE BUS COOL. JUST TAKE YOURSELF AND THE REST OF THAT BAND AND STEP UNDER THE BUS WITH HIM. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY WHEN HIS DAUGHTER COMES TO YOU ASKS. WHY? WHY DIDN’T YOU DO SOMETHING? WHY DON’T I HAVE MY DAD? WHY DID YOU IGNORE IT? WHY DIDN’T YOU TRY AND HELP…..MOST OF ALL WHY DO YOU CALL HIM YOUR BROTHER WHEN YOU LET HIM GO SO EASILY?
BUNCH OF FUCKING HYPOCRITES.
While I can’t support your sexual assault on the Caps Lock button, I fully agree with your statement. If I knew my brother was holed up in some rundown Iowan hotel pushing whatever he could get his hands on into his system, I wouldn’t sit idly by.
Ya the caps were probably overkill. Then again i have been sitting and stewing on this for awhile and it i finally popped my top.
Caps lock or not, well said, dude. These dudes wanna fuck up the life of the doctor that happened to write his script, fuck that shit. The dude was a junkie and, to be honest, the drugs he OD’ed on probably werent even the ones he got from a doctor. Fuck Slipknot and more importantly fuck Corey Taylor, you piece of shit hack.
Involuntary manslaughter? I didn’t know Randy Blythe was a doctor too.
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