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Geezer Butler Outs New Black Sabbath Drummer, Speaks On Bill Ward Controversy

Black Sabbath bassist Geezer Butler looks to have outed the identity of their “substitute drummer” for Bill Ward. According to Butler the band have been rehearsing with Tommy Clufetos (Ozzy Osbourne, Rob Zombie).

Speaking on his official website,, he offered the following statement on the current state of Black Sabbath:

“I feel sad to see the Sabbath reunion becoming a bit of a soap opera on the internet. It has been a very tough year for us as a band, having announced our reunion plans, only for Tony to be diagnosed with lymphoma, leaving us no choice but to postpone the proposed Sabbath tour, and then for Bill to go public on his site about an un-signable contract.

None of us knew how Tony was going to respond to his intensive chemo therapy, and radiotherapy. Ozzy and myself flew to England to be with Tony, and on his “good” days, we’d meet at his home studio and put ideas together for the upcoming album, all sitting down together, no drummer involved, just 3 of us quietly putting together ideas.

We thought that when we had enough songs together for a full band rehearsal, we’d move back to L.A and put the whole thing together with Bill. Unfortunately, to our surprise, Bill issued a statement on his site saying he’d been offered an un-signable contract.

He hadn’t told any one of us he was having contractual problems, and frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us let alone in public. We had the idea of keeping just one show in this year, hoping that Tony would be well enough for that show, and that things with Bill would be sorted.

As you may expect, a one off show at Donnington Festival (Download) costs an absolute fortune to stage, involving over 50 people, transport, air fares, hotels, meals, agents, promotors, accountants, lawyers etc, so none of us, expected to make much money from it- it was a one off Sabbath show for the fans, before we go into recording the new album.

Apparently, this wasn’t acceptable to Bill’s representatives, they wanted an amount that was so unrealistic that it seemed to have been a joke. So we resigned ourselves to doing Download without Bill, hoping he’d change his mind and at least make a guest appearance.

We started rehearsals a few weeks ago with Tommy Cluefetos, the drummer who will be on the Ozzy and Friends Tour. Brilliant drummer and good bloke. It was decided we’d better do a warm up show, to break the ice since we haven’t played together live.

The O2 Academy was available in Birmingham, where we were rehearsing, so we decided on that, and to make a donation to Help For Heroes Charity, since we’d be ironing out any glitches we may have.

Then Bill put out a further statement saying he’d been ready to play the Birmingham show , but he was expected to have to do it “for free”- well, I think that’s basically how you raise money from gigs for charity – you play them “for free”.

All I am saying is that there are two sides to everything. I do hope to play with Bill again some day. For whatever reason; it wasn’t meant to be this time. Bill’s made his decision, and I have to respect that. Hopefully this painful year will be worth the wait for the new Sabbath album and end in joy and happiness for all.

Stay frosty,


  • stuckpig

    Oh brother…what is it with drummers and their retarded minds? I’ve come to the conclusion that the majority of drummers in the world are mentally ill.

    • jampola

      Fuckin’ aye. I endorse this comment.

      Every band I have ever been in has had a bloody unit for a drummer. It’s like they’re all dyslexic at life.

    • star_AD

      Dude look at Mike Portnoy haha same shit.

  • coolguy2424

    So the new Sabbath drummer is gay? Seriously though, I have so much respect and love for this band that I am just frustrated at how things happened regarding Bill Ward and the rest of the band. Geezer Butler finally tells the other side of the story. Money in the end ruins everything yet it is absolutely essential for survival on this planet. I harbor zero malice toward any members of the mighty Black Sabbath. I wish I could be at the show tonight. Rock on.

    • Moxy? Oh, Brian

      …is there a reason why the drummer for Sabbath can’t be gay? Halford’s gay. Judas Priest is still pretty awesome.

      • Aggroculture

        It was a joke, calm down. Google “to out someone.”

      • Moxy? Oh, Brian

        i wasn’t getting upset at you, or anything, i just didn’t read the sarcasm initially. now that i have, fair play. haha.

    • jampola

      Seriously, who the hell needs an over 50 person touring entourage for a single show? It’s not rocket surgery you know?!? You arrive at venue, set your shit up, soundcheck (if you’re lucky), band plays, band gets paid, crowd is happy and everyone’s a winner. If someone needs a roadie to lift a 50kg bass cab onto the stage or something stupid like that, so be it and take it out of the band members cut. No reason for this lawyer bullshit.

  • Fred Burst

    This whole Sabbath thing is sad and absurd. Total soap opera.

  • dan12con

    Sabbath sucks anyway